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		<title>2011 Indydrafter CAD Hardware Guide &#8211; Graphics Card</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Tanner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Graphics Processing Units (GPU), or graphics/video cards, are easily the most confusing aspect of any computer. This applies to both notebook and desktop machines. GeForce, Quadro, Radeon, FirePro, GT, GTX, FX, EyeFinity, TrueVision, OpenGL, DirectX, CUDA&#8230;what does it all mean? In the instance of notebook GPU&#8217;s, how is an M6770 different from an M5990 or a GTX 560m different from an m3800 card? While I won&#8217;t break down a full-on comparison of the hundreds of available graphics cards, I will provide some clarity it what to look for in a ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/GPUs.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-2198" title="GPUs" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/GPUs-150x150.jpg" alt="Graphics Cards in CAD workstations" width="150" height="150" /></a>Graphics Processing Units (GPU), or graphics/video cards, are easily the most confusing aspect of any computer. This applies to both notebook and desktop machines. GeForce, Quadro, Radeon, FirePro, GT, GTX, FX, EyeFinity, TrueVision, OpenGL, DirectX, CUDA&#8230;what does it all mean? In the instance of notebook GPU&#8217;s, how is an M6770 different from an M5990 or a GTX 560m different from an m3800 card? While I won&#8217;t break down a full-on comparison of the hundreds of available graphics cards, I will provide some clarity it what to look for in a good performing component and provide some suggestions for speed, capacity, and model.</p>
<h3>Professional Workstation or Consumer Gaming Graphics?</h3>
<p>For many CAD software companies, certified workstation graphics cards are recommended for the best performance. While this specification isn&#8217;t a necessity for the applications to run, they may have a significant upper hand compared to consumer-level and gaming graphics cards due to professional drivers being installed on the cards. In some cases, the name on the label and the drivers applied are the only differences between a $100 gaming GPU vs. a $400 workstation GPU. In some instances, however, available pipelines, shader clock speeds, and accuracy in rendering geometry can be tangible improvements when going with the professional graphics card.</p>
<p>Deciding between the two still causes frustration and there isn&#8217;t much real world proof to research or work from in determining any substantial improvement in performance for the added cost. While workstation cards certainly work better on CAD and database calculations compared to games (and vis versa with the gaming graphics cards), is the additional investment really worth it? I don&#8217;t have a good answer for that. Let me give you a simple solution anyway: If you are purchasing a business-class workstation, it will be coming bundled with a workstation graphics card and if you are buying a consumer-grade gaming machine for your CAD work, it almost definitely has a gaming GPU installed &#8211; so don&#8217;t sweat it!</p>
<h3>Deciphering the Graphics Card Naming Game</h3>
<p>There are many tricks companies play when coming up with a name for a product. AMD and nVidia are no different. Subtle differences in card numbers, letters, and price can actually mean huge differences in performance. The graphic below (originally from geforce.com and picked up from lifehacker.com) is just a brief introduction to how confusing the GPU names are:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/nVidia-Graphics-Chart.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2195" title="nVidia Graphics Chart" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/nVidia-Graphics-Chart.jpg" alt="Compare nVidia GPU names and performance" width="590" height="360" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This is just a sampling from nVidia&#8217;s desktop consumer and workstation graphics cards, not to mention how confusing it can become when you introduce their mobile GPU&#8217;s for notebooks. And while this following image doesn&#8217;t show the performance of each card, you can tell the naming scheme used by AMD is only a little easier to understand:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/AMD-Graphics-Cards.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2197" title="AMD-Graphics-Cards" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/AMD-Graphics-Cards.jpg" alt="Compare AMD Graphics Cards By Series" width="589" height="426" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The typical practice nVidia and AMD use for their mobile cards is simply adding an &#8220;m&#8221; (for mobile) to the beginning or end of the card number, but that doesn&#8217;t mean it will perform the same as it&#8217;s desktop equivalent. This is where you have to be very careful. For a full explanation of GPU performance numbers and a comparison of cards worth looking into, check back soon for the next Indydrafter CAD Hardware post on graphics cards.</p>
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		<title>2011 Indydrafter CAD Hardware Guide &#8211; Noteboook CPU</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Oct 2011 08:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Tanner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is where we pick up the CAD hardware discussion on mobile workstations, or notebooks, given that I&#8217;ll throw in a few consumer-grade options that should get the job done on  your next project as well. All things are not created equal when comparing desktop hardware and notebook computers. The form factor is different, components must be shrunk down to fit in a small space, power hungry devices are toned down to suit the battery supply, and heat becomes an issue with electrons blasting a light speed in such confined ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/processor.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-2150" title="processor" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/processor-150x150.jpg" alt="CAD Mobile Workstation CPU" width="150" height="150" /></a>Here is where we pick up the CAD hardware discussion on mobile workstations, or notebooks, given that I&#8217;ll throw in a few consumer-grade options that should get the job done on  your next project as well. All things are not created equal when comparing desktop hardware and notebook computers. The form factor is different, components must be shrunk down to fit in a small space, power hungry devices are toned down to suit the battery supply, and heat becomes an issue with electrons blasting a light speed in such confined quarters. Many manufacturers claim to offer a &#8220;desktop replacement&#8221; laptop, but few &#8211; if any &#8211; succeed.</p>
<p>At the crux of the issue, it isn&#8217;t feasibly possible to fit a mobile workstation with desktop caliber components. There is no wiggle room here. It is just a fact. Take a look at desktop processors compared to those available for notebooks &#8211; there is a major difference in speed, cache, power draw, and number of cores. These same comparisons can be made about graphics cards. However, when it comes to the quality of the motherboard (chipset), available ports, hard drive/solid state drive, memory (RAM), and optical drives little sacrifice needs to be made, if any at all. This is important, as more and more professionals are on the move, out in the field, and take work home with them.</p>
<h3>Mobile Processors</h3>
<p>When it comes to speed, reliability, power consumption, and availability, Intel has a huge upper hand over AMD. So much so that I&#8217;m not going to even discuss AMD CPU&#8217;s in this article. It isn&#8217;t that they are poor quality or that I&#8217;m unfamiliar with them, it is just the fact you&#8217;d be taking a wrong turn out of the gates if you went with an AMD chip in a mobile workstation when Intel performs so much better and its ubiquity makes complimentary components less expensive.</p>
<p>With that said, the Intel Sandy Bridge mobile processors have been available since the beginning of this year. They are a significant upgrade from the previous generation in speed, cache, advanced Turbo Boost capabilities, power consumption, and even price. The standard fare CPU in many mid-to-high end consumer notebooks and entry level mobile workstations is the Intel Core i7-2630QM processor (2 GHz Quad Core w/ 6 MB L3 Cache). This CPU is likely powerful enough for daily CAD design and basic modeling capabilities. You may find it can do much more, but with most CAD applications only taking advantage of a single processor core, there&#8217;s only so much you can squeak out of this chip (even with Turbo Boost focusing up to 2.9 GHz speeds to a single core when under heavy loads).</p>
<p>The Core i7 chip line rounds out with the 2720QM (2.2 GHz w/ 6 MB L3 Cache), 2820QM (2.3 GHz w/ 8 MB L3 Cache), and 2920XM (2.5 GHz w/ 8 MB L3 Cache) all sporting Turbo Boost technology allowing a single core to get around a 30-40% jump in performance on heavy calculations. At a price point of about $1k above the 2630Qm, the 2920Xm processor knocks the budget out of the park and I would be skeptical buying it at all due to the heat it will generate, power drain, and lack of return on investment from performance.</p>
<p>Those that keep up with gadget news will know there are also Core i3 and Core i5 versions of the Intel Sandy Bridge chips, but these tend to be quite underwhelming under anything above basic tasks on modern CAD applications.</p>
<h3>The Verdict</h3>
<p>From my pricing, testing, and scrutinizing, it appears the Core i7 2720QM CPU is the best of the bunch when comparing performance vs. price. Given an extra $100-150 in budget or savings in another component category, though, the 2820QM processor is desirable with the extra cache and significant jump in Turbo Boost allocation.</p>
<h3>Special Note</h3>
<p>Intel is rumored to release several (9) new Sandy Bridge mobile processors very soon. These are apparently going to be a little better in performance compared to the current line and have slightly higher clocked HD 3000 graphics. I would guess they&#8217;ll be similarly priced between the 26xx, 27xx, and 28xx series, so it should be a pretty easy choice on new notebooks.</p>
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		<title>August AUGIWorld Collaboration Article</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 15:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Tanner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has been released and available for over a month now, but I&#8217;d be remiss to not mention it; the August 2011 issue of AUGIWorld contained an article I wrote. It is a great issue, chock full of content about collaboration with different disciplines and using many different Autodesk products. There are a lot of great articles in it and it is definitely worth checking out.
My article, &#8220;Collaboration in a Multi-Disciplinary/Multi-Firm Environment,&#8221; goes in depth on different methods of saving, exporting, modifying, and sharing Civil 3D files with other software ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/AUGIWorld_August2011.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-2192" title="AUGIWorld_August2011" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/AUGIWorld_August2011-150x150.jpg" alt="Let's Collaborate! August 2011 issue of AUGIWorld Magazine" width="150" height="150" /></a>It has been released and available for over a month now, but I&#8217;d be remiss to not mention it; the <a title="August 2011 issue of AUGIWorld Magazine" href="http://www.augi.com/images/uploads/augiworld_issues/AW201108_lr.pdf" target="_blank">August 2011 issue of AUGIWorld</a> contained an article I wrote. It is a great issue, chock full of content about collaboration with different disciplines and using many different Autodesk products. There are a lot of great articles in it and it is definitely worth checking out.</p>
<p>My article, &#8220;Collaboration in a Multi-Disciplinary/Multi-Firm Environment,&#8221; goes in depth on different methods of saving, exporting, modifying, and sharing Civil 3D files with other software users such as older versions, vanilla AutoCAD (and AutoCAD LT), AutoCAD WS for the web and mobile platform, and Navisworks.</p>
<p>There is a small discrepancy in the article. In a set of images comparing two different file sizes, the same image was used twice where there should have been over a 50% increase in file size. Not a big issue, but it certainly doesn&#8217;t properly illustrate the concern I was trying to represent. Give it a read, soak it all in, and come back here to leave a comment and let me know what you thought of it. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Sign Up For My AU 2011 Classes</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Tanner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As you may or may not know, Autodesk University is coming up in just a couple short months. It&#8217;s an annual tradition of design geeks of all shapes and sizes coming together to teach, learn, and share in each others&#8217; passions and struggles for the software they use to get the job done. AU2011 is November 29th &#8211; December 1st out in Las Vegas and you can find out more information here.
Last year at AU I was a lab assistant for 2 classes, attended a bunch more, took part in ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/AU-Logo.png"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-1288" title="AU Logo" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/AU-Logo-150x150.png" alt="Autodesk University" width="150" height="150" /></a>As you may or may not know, Autodesk University is coming up in just a couple short months. It&#8217;s an annual tradition of design geeks of all shapes and sizes coming together to teach, learn, and share in each others&#8217; passions and struggles for the software they use to get the job done. AU2011 is November 29th &#8211; December 1st out in Las Vegas and you can find out <a title="Autodesk University 2011" href="http://au.autodesk.com" target="_blank">more information here</a>.</p>
<p>Last year at AU I was a lab assistant for 2 classes, attended a bunch more, took part in the Blogger and AEC socials, and worked the Avatech Solutions / IMAGINiT Technologies booth. If you were there, I may have seen you and so the reverse. This year, I&#8217;ve been lucky enough to have 2 class proposals selected to instruct! So, if you are heading out to Autodesk University 2011 in Las Vegas, make sure to check out the classes listed below that I&#8217;ll be presenting. To make it a little easier, once you&#8217;ve registered for the conference and are signing up for classes, just find the name &#8220;Bryan Tanner&#8221; in the instructor pull-down list to find my classes.</p>
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<td>In this class, we will discuss how to create utility industry models, such as water, gas, and electric, through workflows and administration with features previously only available in Autodesk® Topobase™. Using GIS geometry and data for generating models and preparing models for GIS mapping and cartographic display. In this class, learn to create design models from GIS information and map GIS information from your industry design models seamlessly.</td>
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<td>Sr. Designer/Drafter, GIS Manager, Owner/Principal, Jr. Designer/Drafter, CAD Manager</td>
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<td>Autodesk made great improvements in controlling and constraining Civil 3D alignments in the 2012 release. In this class, discover what new methods are available for handling your alignments with care or with a vengeance, depending on your project needs. Lines, curves, and spirals can be free, floating, or fixed—what does it all mean? The terminology will be clarified and methods studied. We will also work out what new tools combine well with features for working with alignment parameters that have been around for some time.</td>
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		<title>2011 Indydrafter CAD Hardware Guide &#8211; System Requirements</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Tanner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Autodesk software system requirements. That sentence is enough to make hairs stand on the back of a CAD Manager&#8217;s neck. It&#8217;s something early adopters and Subscription customers are concerned about annually and for good reason; if Autodesk updated your favorite software package with loads of new resource-hungry features, you&#8217;ve got to find a way to support those features if you ever plan on using them. Although I can&#8217;t change the process of the release cycle, nor do I want to, I can make it a little easier in finding that ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/AutoCAD-2012.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-2155" title="Autodesk 2012 Software Requirements" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/AutoCAD-2012-150x150.jpg" alt="AutoCAD Revit Civil 3D Navisworks System Requirements Recommendations" width="150" height="150" /></a>Autodesk software system requirements. That sentence is enough to make hairs stand on the back of a CAD Manager&#8217;s neck. It&#8217;s something early adopters and Subscription customers are concerned about annually and for good reason; if Autodesk updated your favorite software package with loads of new resource-hungry features, you&#8217;ve got to find a way to support those features if you ever plan on using them. Although I can&#8217;t change the process of the release cycle, nor do I want to, I can make it a little easier in finding that information and sorting out what&#8217;s most important.</p>
<p>Discovering what your version of Autodesk software, or a version you plan on upgrading to, requires of your workstation is a simple Google search away. I&#8217;ll make it a little easier, though. Below are the system requirement pages for Autodesk&#8217;s major 2012 products and a resource link for future reference in finding support topics on Autodesk software:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://usa.autodesk.com/autocad/system-requirements/">AutoCAD</a></li>
<li><a href="http://usa.autodesk.com/autocad-map-3d/system-requirements/">Map 3D</a></li>
<li><a href="http://usa.autodesk.com/civil-3d/system-requirements/">Civil 3D</a></li>
<li><a href="http://usa.autodesk.com/revit-architecture/system-requirements/">Autodesk Revit Architecture</a></li>
<li><a href="http://usa.autodesk.com/revit-mep/system-requirements/">Autodesk Revit MEP</a></li>
<li><a href="http://usa.autodesk.com/autodesk-inventor/system-requirements/">Inventor</a></li>
<li><a href="http://usa.autodesk.com/navisworks/system-requirements/">Navisworks</a></li>
<li><a href="http://usa.autodesk.com/3ds-max/system-requirements/">3Ds Max</a></li>
<li><a href="http://usa.autodesk.com/support/">Autodesk Support Resource Link</a></li>
</ul>
<h3>Processor and Operating System</h3>
<p>Looking through these requirements and recommendations you should start to see quite a trend: High CPU speed, lots of RAM, and a certified workstation graphics card. 64-bit programs require more resources, but the extra cost is well worth it given the additional computing performance shown in review-after-review. Not that there&#8217;s much of a choice any more. Pretty much any new workstation (and most bought within the last 2-3 years) already have a 64-bit capable processor and Windows Professional 64-bit is becoming more the norm rather than the exception.</p>
<h3>Memory (RAM)</h3>
<p>Memory (RAM) is becoming a major commodity these days as its price has fallen dramatically and motherboards are manufactured to accept more slots with higher capacities and faster chipsets. That&#8217;s a good thing, too. Most of Autodesk&#8217;s latest offerings are very RAM-hungry with users of complex Revit models even being suggested to work with 16 GB+ of memory on their machines . At the time of this writing, there are numerous desktop motherboards which can accept more than this quantity of RAM, only 3 notebooks that I&#8217;m aware of, and Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit won&#8217;t even recognize more that 16 GB of memory (better than the 3 GB limit of 32-bit operating systems!).</p>
<h3>Graphics/Video Card</h3>
<p>Graphics cards have always been the talk of the town when it comes to CAD workstations. Autodesk (and many other CAD developers) recommend certified workstation cards which cost 2-3 times more than their gaming equivalent. Although these graphics cards may be built on the same platform, workstation cards may have more shader pipelines opened up and higher clocked processor cores, as well as proper drivers for Direct3D, OpenGL, OpenCL, and CUDA drivers.</p>
<p>These differences are what make workstation cards work better for CAD geometry and database calculations compared to gaming graphics cards; they are also what make them much more expensive. Are they worth the extra money? I&#8217;ll leave that up to the people with dozens of machines to test repeatedly with billions of calculations. My opinion? Decide whether you intend to purchase a business-level workstation or a consumer grade computer and get the best video card you can within your budget (best != most expensive).</p>
<h3>Hard Drive/Storage</h3>
<p>Although Autodesk doesn&#8217;t mention much along the lines of storage drives aside from free space, faster is better. There are 5400, 7200, and 10k RPM Hard Disk Drives and Solid State Drives with read/write speeds which vary drastically. Solid State Drives (SSD) are newer technology which is finally starting to drop in price a little, but is well beyond what most consider affordable for their computer purchasing needs. They are much faster, but they are also very misunderstood and earlier/entry level models aren&#8217;t much of a performance jump compared to a 7200 or 10k RPM Hard Disk Drive (HDD).</p>
<p>What matters the most when dealing with Autodesk software requirements and recommendations is that you have plenty of free space (8 GB+ at the absolute minimum) available on the storage drive you are using and it is running error free. Storage drives are one of the most common components to fail on computers and carry the most value after use &#8211; you did back all your data up to a server or external hard drive before it failed, right? Get a 7200 RPM HDD for affordable storage at a decent speed and a small (80-128 GB) SSD to install your OS and CAD software on for quick starts and fast load times without breaking the bank&#8230;so long as you have 2 storage drive bays to take advantage of.</p>
<h3>Wrap-Up</h3>
<p>Buying a CAD workstation to fit the needs of your software is always a bit of a mystery. You know what the requirements and recommendations are for this release of the software, but what about next year? Or the year after that? Remember you are buying this hardware to work for you with little-to-no upgrades necessary for about 3 years.</p>
<p>Purchasing a bottom-feeder now will leave some money in your wallet, but have you crying later when a 600MB Revit model won&#8217;t load. Going over-the-top may help you keep your sanity a few years from now working with huge CAD files, but you may still be broke from the home equity loan you took out in the process. Finding a great sale/promotion or an average workstation which has easy-to-upgrade components is the ideal way to go. We&#8217;ll explore more on this as the 2011 Indydrafter CAD Hardware series continues.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Tanner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You may or may not have noticed, but there was a big gap in time where no posting was going on at Indydrafter.com, or it was sparse at best. It wasn&#8217;t due to a lack of writing or creative ideas, however. I was busy creating posts for the IMAGINiT Technologies Civil Solutions Blog where I contributed many articles covering Civil 3D and Map 3D tips and techniques, as well as details regarding the new 2012 products Autodesk released in April/May.
Below, you will find a list and links for all the ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Stack-of-Books.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-2177" title="Indydrafter AutoCAD Civil 3D Map 3D" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Stack-of-Books-150x150.jpg" alt="Read more Indydrafter AutoCAD, Map 3D, and Civil 3D content on other sites" width="150" height="150" /></a>You may or may not have noticed, but there was a big gap in time where no posting was going on at Indydrafter.com, or it was sparse at best. It wasn&#8217;t due to a lack of writing or creative ideas, however. I was busy creating posts for the IMAGINiT Technologies <a title="IMAGINiT Technologies Civil Solutions Blog" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/" target="_blank">Civil Solutions Blog</a> where I contributed many articles covering Civil 3D and Map 3D tips and techniques, as well as details regarding the new 2012 products Autodesk released in April/May.</p>
<p>Below, you will find a list and links for all the posts I wrote on the Civil Solutions Blog. I won&#8217;t repost them here, as Google tends to fault you in the search results if it finds duplicate content, and I just think it would be better ethically to send you where the posts were originally published. So with no further ado, here they are:</p>
<ul>
<li><a title="Make labeling curb elevations and other offsets easy in Civil 3D" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/02/label-curb-elevations-the-easy-way-in-civil-3d.html" target="_blank">Label Curb Elevations the Easy Way In Civil 3D</a> &#8211; 2/16/2011</li>
<li><a title="Upload DXF Files in Google Docs to view and share them with others" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/02/upload-view-and-share-dxf-files-in-google-docs.html" target="_blank">Upload, View, and Share DXF Files in Google Docs</a> &#8211; 2/23/2011</li>
<li><a title="Temporarily or permanently hide contour label lines to prevent printing them in Civil 3D" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/03/get-rid-of-those-pesky-contour-label-lines.html" target="_blank">Get Rid of Those Pesky Contour Label Lines</a> &#8211; 3/2/2011</li>
<li><a title="How to create and modify Civil 3D reports in several different formats" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/03/getting-started-with-civil-3d-reports.html" target="_blank">Getting Started with Civil 3D Reports</a> &#8211; 3/9/2011</li>
<li><a title="View drawings created in Civil 3D within other applications without errors" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/03/view-civil-3d-drawings-in-other-applications.html" target="_blank">View Civil 3D Drawings in Other Applications</a> &#8211; 3/15/2011</li>
<li><a title="Change the formatting and text of the default Civil 3D reporting tools" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/03/customize-your-civil-3d-reports.html" target="_blank">Customize Your Civil 3D Reports</a> &#8211; 3/18/2011</li>
<li><a title="Protect the styles in your Civil 3D template" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/03/protecting-your-civil-3d-styles.html" target="_blank">Protecting Your Civil 3D Styles</a> &#8211; 3/21/2011</li>
<li><a title="Tools previously only available in Autodesk Topobase now available in AutoCAD Map 3D 2012" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/03/discover-topobase-tools-within-map-3d-2012.html" target="_blank">Discover Topobase Tools Within Map 3D 2012</a> - 3/22/2011</li>
<li><a title="Discover the software and features packed into the Autodesk 2012 Infrastructure Design Suites" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/03/life-is-suite-autodesk-infrastructure-design-suites-are-here.html" target="_blank">Life is Suite! Autodesk Infrastructure Design Suites are Here</a> &#8211; 3/22/2011</li>
<li><a title="Compare 2010, 2011, and 2012 versions of AutoCAD Civil 3D features" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/03/the-civil-3d-2012-version-comparison-matrix.html" target="_blank">The Civil 3D 2012 Version Comparison Matrix</a> &#8211; 3/22/2011</li>
<li><a title="Compare 2010, 2011, and 2012 versions of AutoCAD Map 3D features" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/03/the-map-3d-2012-version-comparison-matrix.html" target="_blank">The Map 3D 2012 Version Comparison Matrix</a> &#8211; 3/22/2011</li>
<li><a title="Automatically Generate Points for Pipe Networks in Civil 3D" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/06/pipe-network-staking-in-civil-3d.html" target="_blank">Pipe Network Staking in Civil 3D</a> &#8211; 6/19/2011</li>
<li><a title="Discover Automatic Point Creation in Civil 3D for Pipe Networks" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/06/pipe-network-staking-in-civil-3d-part-2.html" target="_blank">Pipe Network Staking in Civil 3D &#8211; Part 2</a> &#8211; 6/16/2011</li>
<li><a title="Change Parcel Area Units in Civil 3D" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/06/change-parcel-area-units.html" target="_blank">Change Parcel Area Units</a> &#8211; 6/23/2011</li>
<li><a title="AutoCAD Civil 3D 2012 Subassembly Composer" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/07/civil-3d-subassembly-composer-all-grown-up.html" target="_blank">Civil 3D Subassembly Composer All Grown Up</a> &#8211; 7/7/2011</li>
<li><a title="AutoCAD 2011, AutoCAD 2012, Civil 3D 2011, and Civil 3D 2012 Updates and Hotfixes" href="http://blogs.rand.com/civil/2011/07/autocad-and-civil-3d-updates-and-hotfixes.html" target="_blank">AutoCAD and Civil 3D Updates and Hotfixes</a> &#8211; 7/14/2011</li>
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<div>As I said, I was definitely busy writing even if you didn&#8217;t see it posted here on Indydrafter.com. I&#8217;m refocusing efforts on this website, however, and have already started a new series on <a title="Guide to choosing computers and workstation hardware for CAD software" href="http://indydrafter.com/2011-indydrafter-cad-hardware-guide/" target="_blank">CAD Hardware</a> as you may have already seen. Stay tuned for many more installments on that series, updates about Autodesk University 2011, and new articles covering the vast number of products Autodesk offers. If you have any suggestions or topics you&#8217;d like to address, please leave them below.</div>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 15:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Tanner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#8217;s been a while since I&#8217;ve posted anything, but I think this is a subject that interests many, so let&#8217;s get back into it with a bang! Investing in hardware for your CAD productivity is an intensely debated issue. Whether you label your work as CAD, Modeling, BIM, GIS, or FM you are dependent on 2 things working hard for you: your design software and the hardware it&#8217;s running on. Buying a CAD workstation (whether desktop or notebook) is a major investment in you, your data, and your firm&#8217;s future.
Let&#8217;s ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/workstation-case.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-2122" title="CAD Hardware" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/workstation-case-150x150.jpg" alt="CAD, BIM, GIS, FM hardware guide" width="150" height="150" /></a>It&#8217;s been a while since I&#8217;ve posted anything, but I think this is a subject that interests many, so let&#8217;s get back into it with a bang! Investing in hardware for your CAD productivity is an intensely debated issue. Whether you label your work as CAD, Modeling, BIM, GIS, or FM you are dependent on 2 things working hard for you: your design software and the hardware it&#8217;s running on. Buying a CAD workstation (whether desktop or notebook) is a major investment in you, your data, and your firm&#8217;s future.</p>
<h3>Let&#8217;s establish some ground rules</h3>
<p>I&#8217;m going to make several assumptions along the way in writing these posts. One of these assumptions will include an approximate budget of $1,500-$1,800 for your CAD machine. From my experience in purchasing, building, and working with clients on their hardware, this seems to be the &#8220;sweet spot&#8221; most people fall into when planning their next workstation purchase. Your particular scenario may be different, swinging from as low as $1k to as high as a $3.5k beast, but you can still utilize these posts to set expectations of downgrading or upgrading particular components (or even entire machines) that I list.</p>
<h3>How often should this be brought up?</h3>
<p>The second thing to consider when reading this series, and something you should consider practicing, is the assumption that hardware purchases are held within about a 3 year cycle. In my personal opinion, 2-2.5 years between CAD workstation upgrades is ideal for money spent vs. yields on improved performance. I realize, though, that many people and firms can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t purchase new machines until 3, 4, or even 5 years have gone by. It is an overused phrase, but don&#8217;t be &#8220;penny wise and pound foolish&#8221; when it comes to your hardware. One third of your life (or your employees&#8217; lives) are spent working behind these machines and you want them to be as effective and proficient running your CAD flavor of choice as possible. When I say &#8220;them,&#8221; I mean both the employee and the workstation as coming to a screeching halt in the middle of your workday due to hardware inadequacies can be a major downer in morale. Your biggest investment in CAD work of any sort is time. Wasting too much time on poor hardware can have much graver effects on your bottom line than a $1.5k investment every couple of years (there&#8217;s also an argument to be made regarding this for software training).</p>
<h3>You have options</h3>
<p>I know there are a lot of other posts, reviews, opinion articles, and forum threads dedicated to this topic; which brings me to my last point. Go ahead an read everything out there. Someone may have better insight on certain hardware topics than I do and vis versa. However, I&#8217;m going to attempt to put together some really comprehensive information on what you could, should, or shouldn&#8217;t spend your money on.</p>
<p>As a primer, you should read my post on <a title="Indydrafter Guide to Civil 3D 2011 Workstations" href="http://indydrafter.com/civil-3d-2011-workstation-suggestions/">Civil 3D 2011 workstations</a>. What&#8217;s to come in this guide will be in much greater depth and will simplify the workstation buying process, including giving examples of configured mobile and desktop workstations.</p>
<h3>What&#8217;s to come?</h3>
<p>In the next post, this will include going in depth on the system requirements and recommendations for all major Autodesk software packages including applications within the Infrastructure, Building, and Product design suites. I&#8217;ll follow that up with a breakdown on what different workstation hardware components do and how they can drastically affect your performance. Then we&#8217;ll address some pre-configured workstation notebook options you should keep an eye out for. Next will come the desktop variant of manufactured desktop workstations.</p>
<p>As you might tell, there will be a lot of research, testing, and writing going into this series. I want to best serve you, the readers, in making your next CAD workstation purchase as simple and straightforward as possible. I&#8217;m not going to stop there, though, as I&#8217;ll go into greater details on picking hardware for building your own CAD beast as a reasonable price, assist in deciding what size and type of monitors you should be looking at, how to make cheap and effective upgrades to your existing hardware, and even go so far as discussing input devices like keyboards and mice.</p>
<h3>Make a suggestion</h3>
<p>This is going to be fun. I hope you feel the same way. If you have any subjects or components you&#8217;d like me to discuss in depth, please leave a comment below and I&#8217;d be happy to address it with a quick response or write up a post if there is enough to be said regarding the topic. Stay tuned for the coming deluge of CAD hardware geekery!</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 03:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Tanner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ll keep this short and sweet. June AUGIndy meeting. Advanced Solutions Indianapolis office. Robert Street presenting/leading the discussion on creating COGO points, changing their datum elevation, building a surface from them, and generating a topographical map. Starts at 5:30 pm on Tuesday the 21st. Be there or be square. (click on the image to go to the meeting information page)

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll keep this short and sweet. June AUGIndy meeting. Advanced Solutions Indianapolis office. Robert Street presenting/leading the discussion on creating COGO points, changing their datum elevation, building a surface from them, and generating a topographical map. Starts at 5:30 pm on Tuesday the 21st. Be there or be square. (click on the image to go to the meeting information page)</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 21:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately, there are no automated tools for generating COGO points in Civil 3D in relationship to a Pipe Network. However, we can utilize some other basic functionality of Civil 3D objects to create our survey staking points for both horizontal and vertical data. This takes additional effort (also covered in this post) when applying vertical pipe and structure invert information to be staked.
The 3 methods for generating your survey staking file covered in this post will include copy/paste plus cleanup from the Panorama, using the Pipe Network Alignment for generating ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, there are no automated tools for generating COGO points in Civil 3D in relationship to a Pipe Network. However, we can utilize some other basic functionality of Civil 3D objects to create our survey staking points for both horizontal and vertical data. This takes additional effort (also covered in this post) when applying vertical pipe and structure invert information to be staked.</p>
<p>The 3 methods for generating your survey staking file covered in this post will include copy/paste plus cleanup from the Panorama, using the Pipe Network Alignment for generating a point file for just the horizontal data, or taking the extra step to include pipe/structure invert vertical data utilizing Feature Lines. All these will be covered in addition to several differing options available along the way. That makes this quite the novel of a blog post, but the process can be quite simple if you just pick out the method and options you prefer.</p>
<p>First things first, go ahead and draw your pipe network in the project if you haven’t already.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/1_Pipe-Plan1.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2000" title="1_Pipe Plan" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/1_Pipe-Plan1.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="583" height="345" /></a></p>
<p>With the pipe network created, use the Civil 3D alignment tools to “Create Alignment from Network Parts.&#8221;</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/2_Alignment-from-Network-Parts.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2001" title="2_Alignment from Network Parts" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/2_Alignment-from-Network-Parts.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="404" height="506" /></a></p>
<p>Select the first and last structures in your pipe network (or any and all structures that bound the network) and hit to create the alignment. Define the alignment however you wish with whatever styles and naming options apply for your standards.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/4_Alignment-Creation-Dialog.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2003" title="4_Alignment Creation Dialog" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/4_Alignment-Creation-Dialog.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="213" height="363" /></a></p>
<p>When you are done, select “OK” and it will bring you directly into the “Create Profile…” dialog. From here, sample the proper alignment and surface to create the profile for the pipe network. Select “Draw in profile view” and choose the options within the profile view creation dialog that apply to your standards (creating the profile and profile view are unnecessary for the purpose of creating a survey staking file, but is included as an assumed step most will take during design).</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/5_Sample-Profile-e1305839538376.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2004" title="5_Sample Profile" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/5_Sample-Profile-e1305839538376.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="590" height="342" /></a></p>
<p>With all the items sampled and style options chosen, place the profile view in your drawing. Even without the profile, we can already use the alignment created to generate Civil 3D COGO points based off of the alignment geometry or vertexes for the structure locations and rim elevations.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/6_Profile-View-e1305839594646.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2005" title="6_Profile View" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/6_Profile-View-e1305839594646.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="590" height="244" /></a></p>
<p>As an alternative, it is possible to use the structure and pipe information within Civil 3D to create an NEZ point file without having to generate COGO points. The following steps will explore this opportunity, but it will be up to you to determine if it is a worthwhile or preferred process.</p>
<p>From the pipe network layout tools, select the “Pipe Network Vistas” button to open up the Civil 3D Panorama.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/7_Open-Pipe-Network-Vistas.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2006" title="7_Open Pipe Network Vistas" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/7_Open-Pipe-Network-Vistas.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="525" height="373" /></a></p>
<p>From the structures tab of the panorama (and subsequently the pipes tab for invert information), highlight all rows of information, right-click, and select “Copy to clipboard” from the short cut menu.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/8_Manually-Copy-Coordinates-e1305839738173.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2007" title="8_Manually Copy Coordinates" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/8_Manually-Copy-Coordinates-e1305839738173.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="590" height="184" /></a></p>
<p>Open up Microsoft Excel and paste the copied information into the spreadsheet. From here you can remove any columns and rows that don’t contain coordinate or elevation information.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/9_Paste-Into-Excel-e1305839797681.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2008" title="9_Paste Into Excel" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/9_Paste-Into-Excel-e1305839797681.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="590" height="191" /></a></p>
<p>With the spreadsheet “cleaned up” you can save it out to a .csv file for uploading to a data collector. (Alternatively, you can save it to any number of available formats, so long as it is a compatible file type.)</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/10_Save-Excel-as-CSV-e1305839854144.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2009" title="10_Save Excel as CSV" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/10_Save-Excel-as-CSV-e1305839854144.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="590" height="429" /></a></p>
<p>When the file is saved, you can open it in Notepad to review the results and check the accuracy. It should look like a standard NEZ point file as does the example below.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/11_Notepad-Clean-Points.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2010" title="11_Notepad Clean Points" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/11_Notepad-Clean-Points.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="411" height="303" /></a></p>
<p>Regardless of using alignment geometry to generate COGO points in Civil 3D for export or copying and pasting structure information from the panorama, you should get the desired results for coordinate information for staking. If you don’t copy the invert coordinate and elevation information from the panorama, however, we still have to explore how to do so within Civil 3D using intelligent objects and automated point creation.</p>
<p>First, create a feature line along your pipe network. You can create it from an alignment (as I’ll show) or use the “Create Feature Line” option to draw the geometry. Using the alignment automates the process a bit upfront, but requires some cleanup on the backend. Drawing the feature line geometry is a more manual process, but eliminates the need to remove extraneous vertices (otherwise known as PI’s for feature lines).</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/12_Feature-Lines-from-Alignment-e1305840023801.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2011" title="12_Feature Lines from Alignment" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/12_Feature-Lines-from-Alignment-e1305840023801.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="590" height="289" /></a></p>
<p>For creating the feature line from an alignment, define the feature line styles and settings.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/13_Feature-Line-Creation.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2012" title="13_Feature Line Creation" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/13_Feature-Line-Creation.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="268" height="440" /></a></p>
<p>Make sure to set any weeding factors (if any at all) and select “OK”.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/14_Feature-Line-Weeding.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2013" title="14_Feature Line Weeding" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/14_Feature-Line-Weeding.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="224" height="248" /></a></p>
<p>With the feature line created (whether from the alignment or manually drawn geometry) select the pipe network profile view and choose the “Project Objects To Profile View” option from the contextual ribbon.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/15_Project-Objects-to-Profile-View.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2014" title="15_Project Objects to Profile View" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/15_Project-Objects-to-Profile-View.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="535" height="484" /></a></p>
<p>Pick the feature line from the drawing space.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/16_Select-Feature-Line.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2015" title="16_Select Feature Line" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/16_Select-Feature-Line.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="556" height="292" /></a></p>
<p>Confirm the projection style for the objects. This is mostly irrelevant as we are just using the feature line as a guide, not for displaying on construction documents.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/17_Projection-Elevations-and-Styles.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2016" title="17_Projection Elevations and Styles" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/17_Projection-Elevations-and-Styles.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="463" height="284" /></a></p>
<p>If you produced the feature line from the alignment with a dynamic link, make sure to go into the feature line properties dialog and uncheck the box for “Dynamic Link”. This will allow you to adjust the elevation of the feature line separately from the alignment.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/18_Feature-Line-Properties-Dynamic-Link.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2017" title="18_Feature Line Properties Dynamic Link" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/18_Feature-Line-Properties-Dynamic-Link.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="309" height="364" /></a></p>
<p>If you generated the feature line from the alignment and applied any weeding factors, you may still have some cleanup on the feature line. This isn’t entirely necessary, but will reduce the amount of manual editing you’ll have to perform to remove the COGO points that would otherwise be created between structures. In that, select the feature line and select the “Delete PI” icon from the contextual ribbon and follow the prompts at the command line and remove the intermediate vertices between structures.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/19_Delete-PI.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2018" title="19_Delete PI" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/19_Delete-PI.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="481" height="509" /></a></p>
<p>From the example below, you can see what the feature line looks like once it has been modified.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/20_Clean-Feature-Line-PI-e1305840872473.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2019" title="20_Clean Feature Line PI" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/20_Clean-Feature-Line-PI-e1305840872473.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="590" height="390" /></a></p>
<p>With the feature line vertices limited to just the structures, pan down to the pipe network profile view and select the feature line (which should line up with the existing grade elevations of each structure).</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/21_Clean-Feature-Line-in-Profile-e1305840927431.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2020" title="21_Clean Feature Line in Profile" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/21_Clean-Feature-Line-in-Profile-e1305840927431.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="590" height="261" /></a></p>
<p>Begin grip editing the feature line within the profile view to match the invert elevations of the pipes. If there is a drop in the influent and effluent inverts and you want that to be represented within your pipe staking points, you will have to add PI’s to your feature line to accommodate enough vertices within each structure to account for the pipe inverts.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/22_Adjust-Elevations-in-Profile-View-e1305841001660.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2021" title="22_Adjust Elevations in Profile View" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/22_Adjust-Elevations-in-Profile-View-e1305841001660.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="590" height="331" /></a></p>
<p>Once the feature line elevations have been adjusted in the profile view, go to the “Create Points” toolbar or the points dropdown within the “Home” ribbon tab and select the “Automatic” point creation method within the “Miscellaneous” category.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/23_Create-Points-Automatically.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2022" title="23_Create Points Automatically" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/23_Create-Points-Automatically.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="329" height="269" /></a></p>
<p>You will then be prompted to select the geometry you want to generate the COGO points along, which in this case will be the feature line we have adjusted both horizontally and vertically.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/24_Select-Feature-Line.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2023" title="24_Select Feature Line" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/24_Select-Feature-Line.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="435" height="211" /></a></p>
<p>After the feature line has been selected, you will be asked to give the COGO points a description. Type the raw description within the command line and hit several times until that description has been applied to all the COGO points generated along the feature line vertexes.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/25_Describe-Points.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2024" title="25_Describe Points" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/25_Describe-Points.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="448" height="409" /></a></p>
<p>With the points created, make sure they have been added to a point group or create a point group to include these pipe network points. These could be combined into the same point group as COGO points generated from the alignment geometry to represent the structure locations and rim elevations.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Reviewing the pipe invert points in the drawing, you can see from the image below that the elevation of the structure invert is several feet below the existing ground elevation directly next to the structure. This is a quick visual check to ensure that the point was generated properly.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/26_Compare-Elevations-e1305841142878.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2025" title="26_Compare Elevations" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/26_Compare-Elevations-e1305841142878.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="590" height="508" /></a></p>
<p>After all structure rim and invert points have been created, select the point group from the Prospector tab of the Toolspace, right-click, and choose “Export Points” from the shortcut menu. You will now have a pipe network staking file for uploading to your data collector.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/27_Export-Points.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-2026" title="27_Export Points" src="http://indydrafter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/27_Export-Points.png" alt="Civil 3D Pipe Network Survey Staking" width="296" height="300" /></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Mar 2011 01:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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